The Medjugorje Deception
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The Truth About Medjugorje. -- "Medjugorje," said the priest, "is the devil's plan for the pious." It wasn't surprising to hear a priest talk about Medjugorje this way. But it was surprising to hear a Franciscan talk this way, especially at Medjugorje itself. It just shows how things have changed over the years. This man had been there for over ten years and in that period of time had gone from believing that Medjugorje was a visitation of the Mother of God to where he now believed that it was a demonic hoax, and I was listening to the story of his spiritual odyssey. "The whole point of this," he said gesturing toward St. James Church in one direction and all of the buildings, drug centers, souvenir shops, "orphanages" in the other, "is to take a human oracle and promote it to the status of something divine, and then to excommunicate everyone who doesn't believe it. This is another Jesus." In early 1997 Network 5 began an investigation that culminated in Visions on Demand, the first TV documentary that deals honestly with the financial and spiritual manipulation behind what promises to be one of the greatest spiritual hoaxes of the 20th century. Network 5 later joined forces with E. Michael Jones, an American journalist who has investigated Medjugorje for the last 10 years.
What about Medjugorje? - Fr. Gruner and John Vennari
"If it's teaching heresy, it's not from God."
"The first fruit of an apparition is does it teach the truth?"
What is Happening at Medjugorje?
Howard Kainz (Crisis Magazine, 2012)
"Fatima must be eliminated. That is the purpose of Medjugorje, after all."
The seers are alleged to be in a state of ecstasy and to remain unresponsive to external stimuli. However, when on 14 January 1985, Jean-Louis Martin approached Vicka while she was supposedly in ecstasy and made as if to poke her in the eyes, she instinctively moved away. Vicka explained that the reason for her reaction was because Our Lady had appeared with the Child Jesus and, coincidentally, just when Jean-Louis made his approach, it looked as if the child Jesus was going to slip from Our Lady's hands! The Virgin was about to drop GOD!
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The following thread was compiled by @tradcatveils
Medjugorje is false and demonic, a thread:
"One day, as she (Mirjana) was waiting for the Virgin, she saw the light, and out of the light came the devil, disguised in the features and clothes of Mary, but he had a dark, hideous face...After a while, the Holy Virgin came and said to her: 'I am sorry about that...'"
Oct. 1, 1981: "All religions are equal before God," says the Virgin. (Chronological Corpus of Medjugorje, p. 317)
The Virgin: "I do not dispose of all graces...Jesus prefers that you address your petitions directly to him, rather than through an intermediary." (Chron. Corp. p.181, 277-278)
"The Virgin added: 'It is you who are divided on this earth. The Muslims and the Orthodox, like the Catholics, are equal before my Son and before me, for you are all my children." (Fr. Ljubic, p.71) (the unbaptized muslims??)
C) Aug. 2, 1981: That evening during the apparition, those present followed one another in order to touch "the veil, the head, the hand, the dress" of the apparition. "At the end the Virgin seemed dirty, full of stains." (Bubalo, p.73-74)
Autumn, 1981: Jakov asked the Virgin whether Dynamo, the soccer team from Zagreb, would win the title. This gave rise, during the apparition (in the supposed presence of Our Lady) to mad laughter on the part of the other seers. (Bubalo, p.154-157)
The Virgin was accustomed to reciting the Our father with the seers. (But how could Our Lady say: "Forgive us our trespasses," since she has none? At Lourdes, Our Lady was careful to keep her lips closed during all the Paters and Aves, reciting only the Gloria Patris.)
"The Madonna said that religions are separated in the earth, but the people of all religions are accepted by her Son." --"Seer" Ivanka Ivankovic, The Apparitions of Our Lady of Medjugorje, Franciscan Herald Press, 1984.
Question: "Is the Blessed Mother calling all people to be Catholic?" "No. The Blessed Mother says all religions are dear to her and her Son." --"Seer" Vicka Ivankovic, Janice T. Connell, The Visions of the Children, The Apparitions of the Blessed Mother at Medjugorje
Mirjana: "I recently asked the Virgin this question (whether many souls are damned), and she told me that nowadays most souls go to Purgatory." (book by Fr. Faricy, p. 64) - Contrary to what Our Lady of Fatima says!
"God directs all denominations as a king directs his subjects, through the medium of his ministers" ("The Apparitions at Medjugorje," by Fr. Svat Kraljevic, 1984, p.58)
Pope Benedict XIV:
We must suspect those apparitions that lack dignity or proper reserve, and above all, those that are ridiculous. This last characteristic is a mark of human or diabolical machination.
We must suspect those apparitions that lack dignity or proper reserve, and above all, those that are ridiculous. This last characteristic is a mark of human or diabolical machination.
The apparitions at Medjugorje, because of their banality or lack of dignity, the containing of heresy in the messages, and their undermining of Church authority, are certainly false, and cannot have come from Our Lady and Heaven.
For those defending it: It is impossible for the Virgin Mary to say Heresy. She would never do such a thing.
"In God there are no divisions or religions; it is you in the world who have created divisions." (Faricy, p.51)
Jan. 1982: The Virgin states that two Franciscan priests, removed from their order and under suspension by the bishop, one of whom later fathered a child by a nun, may continue to say Mass and hear Confessions. Vicka the seer is asked "If the Lady said this, and the Pope says that they cannot..." Vicka answers: "The Pope can say what he wants. I'm telling it as it is." (from Bishop Zanic's document, 1990)
Saturday, June 27, 1981: The seers stated that the Virgin had disappeared several times because people had trod on her veil. (Bubalo, p.29-32)
"The Madonna always stresses that there is but one God and that people have enforced unnatural separation. One cannot truly believe, be a true Christian, if he does not respect other religions as well." --"Seer" Ivanka Ivankovic, Franciscan Herald Press, 1984.
"The Devil rejoices greatly when a soul seeks after revelations and is ready to accept them; for such conduct furnishes him with many opportunities of insinuating delusions" (St. John of the Cross, Ascent of Mt. Carmel, Book 2, Ch. 11).
the ‘Gospa’ of Medjugorje confirmed that Necedah was also one of her appearances, and that Bayside’s ‘evil double’ theories were correct. Both of the alleged seers at those locations had occult backgrounds – one having indulged in fortune and tarot readings, and seances.
*Jan. 13, 1984: Cardinal Kuharic, Archbishop of Zagreb, stated "If the Virgin said such words against the Bishop in favor of the suspended Franciscans, then it is not the Virgin who spoke" (cited by Salbato, Medjugorje Apparitions, p.20)
Medjugorje (11/88): ‘My child, know that I love my people of all religions....’" (Apparitions, p. 4).
St. Teresa writes, "I only regard a revelation as true if it is in no way contrary to Holy Scripture and to the laws of the Church, which we are obliged to follow."
If a revelation "departed ever so little from Holy Scripture, I would see in it a snare of the Devil. - St. Teresa
LAST POINT -
Some supporters of Medjugorje claim that the apparitions have borne the "good fruits" of conversions, increased sacramental confessions, recitation of the Rosary, Marian devotion, and a host of other very Catholic manifestations. We must consider that the Devil is willing to suffer these effects as long as he can keep his dark mantle over Catholic doctrine, which itself is necessary to make any such fruits efficacious and will assuredly lead souls to Hell as the rejection of a single doctrine is sufficient to place one in the state of mortal sin. Consider again what St. Teresa, the great Doctor of the Church, said about the marks of a favored soul and a true revelation.
Some supporters of Medjugorje claim that the apparitions have borne the "good fruits" of conversions, increased sacramental confessions, recitation of the Rosary, Marian devotion, and a host of other very Catholic manifestations. We must consider that the Devil is willing to suffer these effects as long as he can keep his dark mantle over Catholic doctrine, which itself is necessary to make any such fruits efficacious and will assuredly lead souls to Hell as the rejection of a single doctrine is sufficient to place one in the state of mortal sin. Consider again what St. Teresa, the great Doctor of the Church, said about the marks of a favored soul and a true revelation.
(Note also: conversions were to the Novus Ordo Vatican II church.)
Beware websites and persons who promote Medjugorje including false prophet "Fr." Michel Rodrigue who also promotes false prophecies about Trump
